Go Back   NexGen Wars > General > Gaming Debates

Gaming Debates Main Forum Description

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old August 23rd, 2007, 05:18 PM
Xisiqomelir's Avatar
Bleeds a Reverse Rainbow
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: El desierto Mojave
Posts: 3,469
Default BBC - Wiictory!

Linkity-link

Quote:
How the Wii won over the world's gamers

Even by conservative estimates Microsoft has invested many billions of dollars in its Xbox project, in an effort to be the market leader in an industry worth more than $30bn (£15bn) annually.

After a practice run with its first console, Microsoft was first to market with the Xbox 360 and has established itself as the global sales leader.

But the lead may be short-lived; Nintendo is expected to overtake the Seattle-based giant as the sales leader in the current generation of games consoles within weeks.


Its Wii machine has become a social phenomenon, broadening the reach of gaming to new audiences and causing Nintendo supply problems. There are reports, not denied by the company, that it will take another year before the firm can ramp up production to meet demand.

"It's not like switching on a tap," according David Yarnton, Nintendo UK's general manager, who said the firm was working hard to ensure there was enough supply this Christmas.

He added: "The demand has outstripped what we could have ever imagined for it; it's unprecedented."

Production issues aside, Nintendo has transformed its status as a key player in the industry to leader in just 12 months, while Sony has struggled with its PlayStation 3 and Microsoft continues to throw money at the Xbox.


GLOBAL CONSOLE SALES*
Nintendo Wii 9.27m
Microsoft Xbox 360 10m
Sony PlayStation 3 4.5m
*Based on manufacturer's figures


Almost 10 million Wii consoles have been sold since it went on sale at the end of last year and it is poised to overtake global sales of the Xbox 360 within weeks. Perhaps more crucially, it will reach the 10m mark in half the time it took Microsoft.

In Europe, the Wii is outselling the PlayStation 3 and Xbox 360 by three to one and unlike its rivals the machine is earning money for the company every time one is sold.

Even at the height of summer, almost 90,000 Wiis a week were being sold across Europe.

Last generation

So where did it all go right for Nintendo?

Mr Yarnton said: "Some of our success started a bit further back. The success we are enjoying now has been in the making for quite some time."

Nintendo's plans began with the last generation of consoles: the GameCube was the firm's rival to the PlayStation 2 juggernaut and new pretender, the Xbox.

But the machine struggled in the US and the UK and came a distant second to Sony in many other countries.

The firm realised that the five-year cycle of ever more powerful and multimedia console launches that the industry had locked itself into was not helping grow the games industry as a whole.

"The games market has been either stagnating or declining," said Mr Yarnton. "We wanted to bring old gamers back to playing and appeal to people who wanted to enrich their lives through games like Wii Sports and Brain Training.

"We didn't want people to feel as though they had to hide the fact they like playing games."

Three years ago Nintendo began to signal its desire to move away from the traditional battleground of ever better graphics and bigger processors.

At games jamboree E3 in Los Angeles, the president of Nintendo Satoru Iwata warned that unless things changed people "would tire of games".

'Beef up'

He said: "Looking at the past 20 years, as long as we could beef up the processing power, as long as we could make computer graphics approach realism, then people were excited about the result.

"Some of the people in the industry still believe we can simply beef up the current technology in order to provide a constant supply of games to people.

"We don't agree with that."

The company's first signal of change was the handheld Nintendo DS, a console that let people touch the screen when playing or control games through voice commands.

More than 47 million DS consoles have been sold since then and Sony's efforts in the handheld market, through the PSP, have looked distinctly also ran.

But the radical design of the DS was only a taste of the changes Nintendo planned: a year later it showed off the basic design of the Revolution and hinted that the wireless controllers would be unique.

"It is the game experience that will most separate the Revolution from its competitors," said Mr Iwata.

For once the hyperbole was right. The Wii, as it was later named, introduced motion sensitive wands instead of traditional controllers and its focus on participation and activity removed many of the barriers to games encountered by would-be players.

Sunk billions

Sony has sunk billions into its Cell processor, and Microsoft a similar amount on its entry into the market and push into the online space, while Nintendo has spent less than $5.50 for a sensor which has transformed gaming for many.


At the heart of the Wiimote controller is an accelerometer, made by an American firm, which can detect movement along three axes.

It has helped make gaming a more social and interactive experience and the internet is filled with videos of children, parents and grandparents playing tennis or bowls on the Wii.

In Japan, the TV industry is becoming concerned that it is losing audiences to Wii families.

The worry for Nintendo is that the Wii is becoming something of a party game and that the novelty will soon wear off.

In five years time the high definition revolution launched by Sony and Microsoft will be in its stride and the immersive and cinematic experiences offered by PlayStation 3 and the Xbox 360 could leave the Wii looking a little tired.

The company is also eschewing any sort of drive to make the Wii a multimedia hub - it cannot play DVDs, let alone high definition formats, nor can it stream video or audio from your PC.

'Creative talent'

Mr Yarnton responded: "We are always looking at innovation and new products. We believe there is a lot of life in it. We haven't even got out of the launch cycle yet."

He added: "We are very lucky to have some of the most creative talent in the industry. Good games don't have to be complicated or with high definition graphics."

Recently the company has launched a series of accessories for the Wii that build on the innovation of the Wiimote controller, such as an interactive balance board.

Nintendo clearly feel it can still innovate through hardware as well as through software.

And it is keen to stress that if and when it leads the console wars, accusations of arrogance, which have been levelled at Sony, will not be forthcoming.

"If we do introduce people to games who had never even thought of playing, then it's to the benefit to the industry at large," said Mr Yarnton.



Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old August 23rd, 2007, 05:21 PM
X51's Avatar
X51 X51 is offline
Someone's Hero: X
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,956
Send a message via MSN to X51 Send a message via Yahoo to X51
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xisiqomelir View Post
Are you really a gamer?
__________________
"No one's gonna take me alive
The time has come to make things right
You and I must fight for our rights
You and I must fight to survive"
Future Phoenix Rebellion Supporter
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old August 23rd, 2007, 05:23 PM
Xisiqomelir's Avatar
Bleeds a Reverse Rainbow
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: El desierto Mojave
Posts: 3,469
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by X51 View Post
Are you really a gamer?
Gamers don't read the BBC? I really don't want to have to start reading Murdoch papers.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old August 23rd, 2007, 05:25 PM
SlipperyMooseCakes's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Posts: 622
Send a message via AIM to SlipperyMooseCakes Send a message via MSN to SlipperyMooseCakes Send a message via Yahoo to SlipperyMooseCakes Send a message via Skype™ to SlipperyMooseCakes
Default

I know you guys don't like ass-numbers but Wii already surpassed the 360 on their ass-numbers. But I don't really like their asses.
__________________


Last edited by waa_waa_wii_waa; August 23rd, 2007 at 05:48 PM. Reason: fixed for accuracy. :)
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old August 23rd, 2007, 05:25 PM
X51's Avatar
X51 X51 is offline
Someone's Hero: X
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,956
Send a message via MSN to X51 Send a message via Yahoo to X51
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xisiqomelir View Post
Gamers don't read the BBC? I really don't want to have to start reading Murdoch papers.
No, it doesn't have to do with your source, it has to do with partisanship and pettiness.
__________________
"No one's gonna take me alive
The time has come to make things right
You and I must fight for our rights
You and I must fight to survive"
Future Phoenix Rebellion Supporter
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old August 23rd, 2007, 05:26 PM
X51's Avatar
X51 X51 is offline
Someone's Hero: X
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,956
Send a message via MSN to X51 Send a message via Yahoo to X51
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SlipperyMooseCakes View Post
I know you guys don't like VG chartz but Wii already surpassed the 360 on their charts. But I don't really like their charts.
Kotaku used them as a source for a story that the Wii has surpassed the 360. I've lost a bit of respect for Kotaku.
__________________
"No one's gonna take me alive
The time has come to make things right
You and I must fight for our rights
You and I must fight to survive"
Future Phoenix Rebellion Supporter
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old August 23rd, 2007, 05:27 PM
Xisiqomelir's Avatar
Bleeds a Reverse Rainbow
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: El desierto Mojave
Posts: 3,469
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by X51 View Post
No, it doesn't have to do with your source, it has to do with partisanship and pettiness.
Gamers are above partisanship? I don't see where you're going with this.
Reply With Quote
  #8  
Old August 23rd, 2007, 05:28 PM
Juno's Avatar
Hardcore Non Gamer
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Cottonopolis, Britannia
Posts: 7,401
Send a message via MSN to Juno
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by X51 View Post
partisanship and pettiness.
Gamers are only surpassed by politicians in those areas.

Quote:
Even at the height of summer, almost 90,000 Wiis a week were being sold across Europe.
Wow, that's really impressive and (depending on July's NPD numbers) could mean that Europe is the Wii's biggest market.
Reply With Quote
  #9  
Old August 23rd, 2007, 05:29 PM
chedabob's Avatar
HUUUUUUUUUUUR
 
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Everywhere
Posts: 8,217
Default

Wii targets casual market -> Casual gamers have lives -> They go outside in the warm weather.

Ergo, Wii sales should slump during the summer months.
Reply With Quote
  #10  
Old August 23rd, 2007, 05:29 PM
X51's Avatar
X51 X51 is offline
Someone's Hero: X
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Posts: 6,956
Send a message via MSN to X51 Send a message via Yahoo to X51
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Xisiqomelir View Post
Gamers are above partisanship? I don't see where you're going with this.
I don't know. It's early, and I'm tired. In reality, yours and my dedication to the art and industry of gaming probably aren't on the same level. I don't like partisanship because it tends to restrict gaming in general. However, not everyone is me. So, my apologies for questioning whether or not you were a gamer. Lapse of logic.
__________________
"No one's gonna take me alive
The time has come to make things right
You and I must fight for our rights
You and I must fight to survive"
Future Phoenix Rebellion Supporter
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


All times are GMT. The time now is 08:43 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.2
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO 3.2.0 RC5
Integrated by BBpixel Team 2008 :: jvbPlugin R1013.368.2