Quick question for Wii fans...

[Shpeshal Ed]

I like the way the defence force is taking this thread as a slight on Mario Galaxy as opposed to what it IS, a slight on the Wii fanbase that doesn't buy good games.

[Fyrus]

Originally Posted by Aeron

I like it how a quick question is gonna be blown into an enormous thread.

When you see Ed's name on it and the wii in the title. You know it's going to be a long controversial thread.

[Shpeshal Ed]

Originally Posted by Fyrus

When you see Ed's name on it and the wii in the title. You know it's going to be a long controversial thread.

to be fair, from what I'm hearing, that's what this place has been missing frankly.

[waa_waa_wii_waa]

Originally Posted by Shpeshal Ed

Before any of the big games were released. Nintendo fans were ALL about polls concerning sales.

Post-Halo 3, I'm seeing a distinct lack of both polls and anything pertaining to said polls.

That's all.

Whether you want to admit it or not, the sales of Galaxy will give a VERY good indication of the Wii's userbase.

It's a fun game, known to both the hardcore AND casual markets, critically acclaimed and designed to exploit the console on which it was developed for. Not to mention the flagship title for the consoles ENTIRE life, the....Halo for the Nintendo Wii if you will.

If it can't compete with Halo's sales, then it DOES in fact say a lot about the Wii's userbase. I never said there are no million sellers on Wii did I?

Super Mario Sunshine couldn't compete with Halo 2 and sunshine even had a 2 year head start. Does that make Gamecube owners casuals? I wouldn't say so.

I see what you're trying to say, but mario is and never has been as popular as halo is with sales. If you're suggesting that Mario Galaxy needs to outsell Halo 3 to prove that Wii owners aren't casuals then you're creating a situation which you know will end in your favor.

As I said earlier, Galaxy had THE BEST first week sales ever for a mario game. How can you ignore that? How do you consider it more reasonable to compare Galaxy to Halo 3 rather than previous mario games?

[2pro4show]

Originally Posted by waa_waa_wii_waa

Mario galaxy actually had the best selling first week of any mario game to date.

Don't tell ed. Apparently SMG is selling worse than it should be.

I remember hearing that, and it supports what I said. If Galaxy is selling better in it's early stages than a game like Super Mario 64, which went on to sell 11 million - 3 million more than Halo 2 - because Mario games tend to stay near the top of the charts for a long time, then early indications just points to Galaxy selling even better than it's N64 counterpart.

[Mallhew]

[Neon Genesis]

Ummm.... even if you're right, Ed... who cares about the make up of the user base? Consoles sold = Consoles sold, be it to Grandma Bertha, FratBrat Mark, or Newborn Baby Danny.

And if anyone talks about 'well 3rd party developers will see these sales and not develop for Wii etc etc', well.... if it does prove true that software sales of more 'hardcore' games are slower than other user friendly games.... so what, again? According to most other Wii naysayers, the Wii has no good 3rd party support anyways. What, are they going to lose what they already don't have?

[Shpeshal Ed]

Originally Posted by waa_waa_wii_waa

then you're creating a situation which you know will end in your favor.

annoying when people you know others will lsten to do that isn't it waa waa?

Originally Posted by 2pro4show

I remember hearing that, and it supports what I said. If Galaxy is selling better in it's early stages than a game like Super Mario 64, which went on to sell 11 million - 3 million more than Halo 2 - because Mario games tend to stay near the top of the charts for a long time, then early indications just points to Galaxy selling even better than it's N64 counterpart.

12 million if we're being honest. Mario 64 sold around 12 million on a userbase of just over 30 million. almost a 50% attach rate.

Halo 2 has done around 8 million on a userbase of around 24 million. a 30% attach rate.

But Halo 3 has sold around 5 or 6 million or so (worldwide) with a userbase of about 12 million. So about 50% as well.

[Shpeshal Ed]

Originally Posted by Neon Genesis

Ummm.... even if you're right, Ed... who cares about the make up of the user base? Consoles sold = Consoles sold, be it to Grandma Bertha, FratBrat Mark, or Newborn Baby Danny.

And if anyone talks about 'well 3rd party developers will see these sales and not develop for Wii etc etc', well.... if it does prove true that software sales of more 'hardcore' games are slower than other user friendly games.... so what, again? According to most other Wii naysayers, the Wii has no good 3rd party support anyways. What, are they going to lose what they already don't have?

In true defence force fashion, you've missed the point entirely.

[2pro4show]

Originally Posted by Shpeshal Ed

annoying when people you know others will lsten to do that isn't it waa waa?



12 million if we're being honest. Mario 64 sold around 12 million on a userbase of just over 30 million. almost a 50% attach rate.

Halo 2 has done around 8 million on a userbase of around 24 million. a 30% attach rate.

But Halo 3 has sold around 5 or 6 million or so (worldwide) with a userbase of about 12 million. So about 50% as well.

That's all fine, but like I said, Mario games tend to sell steadily over their lifetime. It would be more accurate to compare the lifetime sales of Galaxy with it's userbase when the Wii is done. It's also pretty unfair to compare it to Halo 3 so early : Galaxy just does not have the same boom on the video game market as Halo does. I mean, you saw the marketing for Halo 3. It goes above and beyond what little was done for Galaxy.

That said, I would still expect Galaxy to sell a million in a month, worldwide.