Ok Waa Waa, I played Mario Galaxy...

[Mallhew]

Originally Posted by Shpeshal Ed

FACT: 3.3 million people bought Halo 3. Does it make it better than Mario Galaxy?

on the other hand....

FACT: The Wii is now the market leader. Does it make it the best console out there??

Sit on that one for while Nintendopes.

One thing never implies another. Two things can imply a third.

For instance:

Fact 1 (not actually a fact - not always the case): The market leader is naturally the best console.

Fact 2: Wii is the market leader.

Implied: Wii is naturally the best console.

[goldmember]

Originally Posted by Shpeshal Ed

So you want me to change my mind and say I HATE Mario Galaxy is that right?

I don't recall ever bagging Metroid, Galaxy or Zelda in my life. I've always looked forward to all 3, AND Brawl.

I've changed my mind on PS3 and 360 games because THEY are the games I bagged the shit out of before playing.

Once again, irony has caught up with many of you.

Name a BIG NAME Nintendo game released on the Wii (that I've even had a chance to play in this stupid country) that I've bagged and hated on before playing it?

Nights, I made 10 threads, Brawl, I own the first 2, Galaxy and Metroid, go through ALL my posts, I've NEVER said I wasn't looking forward to these games.

I ripped Forza to bits and didn't stray from that train of thought. I bagged Assassins after my first play, THEN changed after giving it more time. You see where I'm going?

There aren't any Nintendo games I bagged before I played them, or even AFTER I played them.

Nice try though goldy. I commend you.

Ed.........



I just meant trying to change your mind on the quality of the controls and camera, not the overall game...

[70eL]

Originally Posted by Shpeshal Ed

now it's fixed for slightly more accuracy and less hostility.

lol. unbiased.

I guess that galaxy's controls aren't good enough then. Shpesal Ed says so.

[Shpeshal Ed]

Originally Posted by goldmember

Ed.........



I just meant trying to change your mind on the quality of the controls and camera, not the overall game...

But there's nothing to change my mind about!

Play Mario Galaxy and then play a game with more responsive controls. What I'm talking about is there. They carried it over from MArio 64. It's not comething I can change my mind about.

It's like asking me to change my mind about the sky being blue. Can't be done.

Same with the camera. Even the GLOWING reviews mention the camera. Some (the fanboy reviewers) choose to ignore it more than others. The things I'm talking about ARE there. It's not an opinion thing.

I've said all along the game is great. It is. It IS also a reason to buy Wii. But still, a game that has 2 issues like that should not be labelled greatest gamer ever, that's all I've been saying.

[2pro4show]

Originally Posted by Shpeshal Ed

As I'VE said. I love the game. I think it's awesome. I do have fun playing it (except when the camera rapes me), my beef isn't with MArio Galaxy at all.

It's with the people that make it out to be something it's not. That's all.

That's the thing. What you think it's not, others will think it is. I find that sometimes you try to be too objective, try to alter people's opinions with factual thought. This is not a bash on you at all, just an observation. Some people will hold some things in higher value than you would. Like you saying you don't think a game with camera problems could be the best ever. That's your view and you can express it but don't expect everyone else to adopt it. A camera that has occasional problems won't bother some people as much as it bothers you (me for example, which is why I can think of Galaxy as my personal best game ever). Again, the camera is just one example. Graphics could be another. I recall you saying how you thought R&C was better than SMG in part due to the technical limitations of the Wii vs. the PS3 and thus R&C having better graphics. See, that's your thing. I don't take graphics into account that much so it won't affect my view on the game as much as it does yours.

Like I said, this isn't a bash or anything, just an observation that I find with some of your posts, it's hard to distinguish between factual thought and your personal opinion.

/wall of text :P

[Shpeshal Ed]

Originally Posted by 70eL

lol. unbiased.

I guess that galaxy's controls aren't good enough then. Shpesal Ed says so.

That's right unbiased. I don't ONLY own a Wii like a lot of you.

I own the other 2 which means I have grounds for comparison. SO I can say I played Ratchet and tell you it has more responsive controls.

The Wii isn't mt only console, so I don't have this fear like most of you that if one of the only games I was relying on isn't as perfect as everyone says it is, I won't be able to sleep at night.

The game is fantastic, DESPITE it's flaws, I don't see why that gets people angry.

[goldmember]

Originally Posted by Shpeshal Ed

But there's nothing to change my mind about!

Play Mario Galaxy and then play a game with more responsive controls. What I'm talking about is there. They carried it over from MArio 64. It's not comething I can change my mind about.

It's like asking me to change my mind about the sky being blue. Can't be done.

Same with the camera. Even the GLOWING reviews mention the camera. Some (the fanboy reviewers) choose to ignore it more than others. The things I'm talking about ARE there. It's not an opinion thing.

I've said all along the game is great. It is. It IS also a reason to buy Wii. But still, a game that has 2 issues like that should not be labelled greatest gamer ever, that's all I've been saying.

I never said that they were justified, I just said it couldn't be done.

The controls aren't too sluggish for me, but I can see how they could be much more responsive.

As for the camera, I just got used to playing upside down, I actually quite enjoy it. Whereas my friend who played a few levels hates the game because of it, says it should have an 80 average at best.

[70eL]

Originally Posted by Shpeshal Ed

That's right unbiased. I don't ONLY own a Wii like a lot of you.

I own the other 2 which means I have grounds for comparison. SO I can say I played Ratchet and tell you it has more responsive controls.

The Wii isn't mt only console, so I don't have this fear like most of you that if one of the only games I was relying on isn't as perfect as everyone says it is, I won't be able to sleep at night.

The game is fantastic, DESPITE it's flaws, I don't see why that gets people angry.

Get your facts straight. I HAVE a 360. No Ps3 but thats not the point. Do some homework before you attempt to flame.

[Shpeshal Ed]

Originally Posted by 2pro4show

That's the thing. What you think it's not, others will think it is. I find that sometimes you try to be too objective, try to alter people's opinions with factual thought. This is not a bash on you at all, just an observation. Some people will hold some things in higher value than you would. Like you saying you don't think a game with camera problems could be the best ever. That's your view and you can express it but don't expect everyone else to adopt it. A camera that has occasional problems won't bother some people as much as it bothers you (me for example, which is why I can think of Galaxy as my personal best game ever). Again, the camera is just one example. Graphics could be another. I recall you saying how you thought R&C was better than SMG in part due to the technical limitations of the Wii vs. the PS3 and thus R&C having better graphics. See, that's your thing. I don't take graphics into account that much so it won't affect my view on the game as much as it does yours.

Like I said, this isn't a bash or anything, just an observation that I find with some of your posts, it's hard to distinguish between factual thought and your personal opinion.

/wall of text :P

This is one of the best posts I've ever seen against me. Someone actually called me TOO objective.

You are one of my new favourite posters. Along with Webshark who has seen the light.

[Mallhew]

Originally Posted by 2pro4show

you try to be too objective, try to alter people's opinions with factual thought.

Fact: every language-enabled human tries to do this at one point or another, often -factual thought.

Speaking of which: objective? factual thought?

Read Atlas Shrugged.