Should cheaters be blocked?

[2pro4show]

Originally Posted by Pokchu

haha

you're sad about people on the internet

people on the internet are my favorite kind of people

[Power666]

The reason why they blocked such devices flat out is because they can't distinguish between single player and online multiplayer. Nintendo has never really like such devices but after the affair with the original Game Genie hasn't had the motivation to go after them.

[chedabob]

Don't the new "cheat" devices only allow you to use modded saves, as opposed to faffing around with the code that's already in the RAM?

[neowolf]

Originally Posted by TheSwex

What's interesting is that Datel plans on making an Action Replay for Wii. I can't wait to see the war that starts between Nintendo and Datel when Nintendo decides to block it. Gonna be a lot of pissed off consumers that bought one.

Originally Posted by chedabob

Don't the new "cheat" devices only allow you to use modded saves, as opposed to faffing around with the code that's already in the RAM?

Correct. All of the current systems now, even the DS and PSP, have protected memory. You can't just dynamically patch the memory to tweak things. The only thing these "devices" (some of them don't even qualify as that really) are now are fancy save game editors.

In that vein, it's worth keeping in mind that such devices are being blocked on all systems. The only odd thing here is that Nintendo's blocking a GC one. Though perhaps they were worried about a potential security breach from their GC mode to Wii mode?

[polymer]

O_o Wolfs back!!

//yes that was worth a spammy post.

[TheSwex]

Wolf could be right. I don't use cheat devices myself. I'd be afraid they'd fuck my games up. Don't wanna risk it.

[Leonidas]

Ok, I just checked, my gamecube freeloader doesn't work anymore.

THANKS A LOT, NINTENDO.

Wow, it took 20 years but they finally pissed me off.


I spent a LOT on my import copy of Megaman X Collection to find that the disc swapping trick doesn't work with that game (Does the disk swapping trick still work btw? Wow I hope so..) and then a bunch more on a freeloader so I could play it. (How foolish of me to try and own a legitimate copy of a game I wanted instead of just downloading the roms)

My gamecube died about a month before the wii came out (coincidence?) so I guess I have to return the game for less than half of what I bought it for, since I can't exactly be screwed formatting my wii and reinstalling the updates everytime I want to play Metroid.

WHY DISABLE GAMECUBE FREELOADERS? Thanks again Nintendo, for raping PAL territories as usual.

I'm sure I'll forgive you though.

[InsightGoalie]

Originally Posted by neowolf

Correct. All of the current systems now, even the DS and PSP, have protected memory. You can't just dynamically patch the memory to tweak things.

With PSP I can use CW cheats and edit stuff dynamically. Of course it requires custom firmware but I can still do it. So, I imagine the "protected memory" is really only software?

[neowolf]

Originally Posted by InsightGoalie

With PSP I can use CW cheats and edit stuff dynamically. Of course it requires custom firmware but I can still do it. So, I imagine the "protected memory" is really only software?

Yep. It's normally implemented in the firmware side of things so if you can edit that you're likely to get around it.

[tr1p1ea]

People who cheat online deserve to be banned, however i dont have any problem with people cheating/patching saves offline.