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View Poll Results: Which console has improved the most over the past year?
Microsoft Xbox 360 20 24.39%
Nintendo Wii 8 9.76%
Sony PS3 49 59.76%
Nintendo DS 1 1.22%
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Old December 4th, 2007, 09:08 PM
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also gamespot gave RC a 7.5 it can't be a good game
Cause everybody trusts Gamespot and what they say?
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also gamespot gave RC a 7.5 it can't be a good game but I guess a 7.5 for a PS3 title is better than most games they have.
IGN gave it 9.4, EGM gave it 90, 85 from 1Up.

Plus, I think we've decided, who cares what Gamespot thinks now?
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lol, i thought most of us didnt care what they thought beforehand.....
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Old December 4th, 2007, 09:16 PM
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lol, i thought most of us didnt care what they thought beforehand.....
Some people did, now no one does.
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User's give RC a 8.9 with 2800 votes and SMG got a 9.4 with 3400 votes, also gamespot gave RC a 7.5 it can't be a good game but I guess a 7.5 for a PS3 title is better than most games they have.
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Metacritic shows 53 PS3 games with a composite score of 75 or better.

Maybe next time you should do your homework instead of making yourself look ignorant?
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Old December 4th, 2007, 11:22 PM
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Play both games and THEN tell me they aren't AAA.

In all seriousness. Take away the "ZOMG It's Marioesss" factor away, and look at each facet of both games.

I think Ratchet and Clank is the better game. Obviously people are going to feel differently on which game they LIKE better, but Ratchet looks and sounds better (for obvious reasons out of anyones control), it handles better (you can only know this by playing both), Is a MUCH longer game, and breaks up the gameplay more than Galaxy does.

Galaxy is still awesome, it just means Ratchet is just....more, awesome. Seriously, if you know a PS3 owner who has it, go and play it with an open mind. Remove the Nintendo goggles you have on (same way I was forced to remove my Sega goggles when I played God of War) and you will see how amazing Ratchet is.
add those two words and you don't lose 25 respect points. (not that i don't agree with you, i think they're about equal. but you talk like your opinion is 100% truth)
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Old December 5th, 2007, 01:04 AM
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Juno, I'm well aware why he got fired.

I re-read my post and realised that it came out as he got fired for a bad review. I know about the Kane and Lynch thing. I went through this on the GAF days ago. The idiot should have been fired anyway, just not for THAT review.

My point was, fanboyism exists in jounalism too and Cassassamasamasamnina is the worst one of the lot. If you honestly believe fanboys don't exist as jounos, there's something terribly wrong. Half of them ADMIT they are fanboys.

Certain games carry the weight of expectation so heavily, and are hyped to the tilt by the MEDIA, that when review time comes, they put themselves in a position where they HAVE to give it a great score. Look at Ninja Gaiden. Perfect example. I kept a close eye on that game the whole way through development, and it was being billed to be the greatest game ever. Clearly it wasn't, but still got top reviews despite not deserving a single one of them.

Doesn't matter how great a game may look or even feel, a BROKEN camera kills ANY 3D game. Which brings us back to Muzza. His camera isn't broken, but at worst, it takes away from the gameplay enough to dock it's score a bit, at fanboy best (Cass) it's a'minor' inconvenience.

Now, before you mention Halo 3 (or anyone else does). Halo 3 didn't carry expectation. Allow me to explain. Halo 3 was going to sell 3.3 million no matter what the reviews said. It's Halo. With the way even great games sell on the Wii, the reviews are actually pretty important to a game like Mario in terms of helping sales. Look at Metroid. Great game, great reviews and it still underperformed badly. Please, don't mention advertising and hype. Halo 3 was NIL advertised down here and sold a truckload. Metroid was advertised MUCH more than Halo here and it barely sold.

The Metroid franchise has a long history of classic games, not a single on of them is bad. Yet it never seems to register much in sales. It's Nintendo's typical audience just going through the motions of their usual buying patterns.

Please don't misunderstand. I said to Waa Waa when I first got Galaxy. It is a FANTASTIC game and even worth buying a Wii for. But I still can't see how a game that so closely resembles a 12 or 13 year old predecessor can be seen as the best game of all time. I know you mentioned the controls as being a GOOD thing relating to M64. I never said it was bad. I just said it had a 'dragging' feel. Whereas Ratchet is ultra sharp and responsive. I was stating how RC is BETTER, not Mario is BAD.
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Old December 5th, 2007, 01:18 AM
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Juno, I'm well aware why he got fired.

I re-read my post and realised that it came out as he got fired for a bad review. I know about the Kane and Lynch thing. I went through this on the GAF days ago. The idiot should have been fired anyway, just not for THAT review.

My point was, fanboyism exists in jounalism too and Cassassamasamasamnina is the worst one of the lot. If you honestly believe fanboys don't exist as jounos, there's something terribly wrong. Half of them ADMIT they are fanboys.
Yeah and there are fanboys of each format. If anything there is a higher probability of there being more fanboys of 360s and PS3s than Wiis in the gaming review industry due to not only the amount of gamers who have one but also due to the demographic the game is aimed at. There are fanboys but I refuse to believe your conspiracy theory that all 50+ journalists that reviewed SMG are fanboys because it's pure steamy bullshit and a really poor excuse.

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Certain games carry the weight of expectation so heavily, and are hyped to the tilt by the MEDIA, that when review time comes, they put themselves in a position where they HAVE to give it a great score. Look at Ninja Gaiden. Perfect example. I kept a close eye on that game the whole way through development, and it was being billed to be the greatest game ever. Clearly it wasn't, but still got top reviews despite not deserving a single one of them.
Yeah and what about Liar, Assassin's Creed, Heavenly Sword and Uncharted. All failed to break into a 90 average and all were deemed as the next OMG BEST GAME EVAS. It just doesn't work that way at all.

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Doesn't matter how great a game may look or even feel, a BROKEN camera kills ANY 3D game. Which brings us back to Muzza. His camera isn't broken, but at worst, it takes away from the gameplay enough to dock it's score a bit, at fanboy best (Cass) it's a'minor' inconvenience.
It's only been a minor inconvienience for me so... I don't know what to say.

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Now, before you mention Halo 3 (or anyone else does). Halo 3 didn't carry expectation. Allow me to explain. Halo 3 was going to sell 3.3 million no matter what the reviews said. It's Halo. With the way even great games sell on the Wii, the reviews are actually pretty important to a game like Mario in terms of helping sales. Look at Metroid. Great game, great reviews and it still underperformed badly. Please, don't mention advertising and hype. Halo 3 was NIL advertised down here and sold a truckload. Metroid was advertised MUCH more than Halo here and it barely sold.
Fuck off. Seriously, that paragraph is the biggest load of shit I've seen you come up with so far. Halo had loads of expectations. It was deemed the biggest game of the century and countless other things. Everyone was going on about how it was goiung to be the be all and end all FPS. It had tons and tons of expectations. Just because it had millions of guaranteed sales doesn't mean that people are expecting nothing of it. I don't know what you are smoking but I sure as hell don't want any.

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The Metroid franchise has a long history of classic games, not a single on of them is bad. Yet it never seems to register much in sales. It's Nintendo's typical audience just going through the motions of their usual buying patterns.
Tastes change, Metroid has never been very popular and as a matter of fact, MP3 has outsold MP2 anyway so your point is pretty much null and void. Sure it did sell millions like other, arguable, inferior FPSs have and will continue to do but it improved on it's predocessor which is start.

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Please don't misunderstand. I said to Waa Waa when I first got Galaxy. It is a FANTASTIC game and even worth buying a Wii for. But I still can't see how a game that so closely resembles a 12 or 13 year old predecessor can be seen as the best game of all time. I know you mentioned the controls as being a GOOD thing relating to M64. I never said it was bad. I just said it had a 'dragging' feel. Whereas Ratchet is ultra sharp and responsive. I was stating how RC is BETTER, not Mario is BAD.
Why were you so hyped for Halo 3 then? What is your GOTY anyway? As I meantioned before, many reviews mentioned that R&C is very similar to it's predocessors so how is that a way in which SMG is worse off to R&C?
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Old December 5th, 2007, 01:40 AM
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I think he said Uncharted was the best game to come out this year.
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Presumably he's a firm believer in the vast reviewer conspiracy.
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