3rd party does not sell on Wii? Yeah right go cry fanboys

[boffo]

Originally Posted by Spindel

But a comparison won't be fair since Nintendo has many more first party titles than Sony or MS

Still be nice to see comparisons just to get an idea of what the other consoles sales breakdown is like. A Gamecube comparison would be good as well just to see how much things have changed from one gen to the next.

[iconoclast]

Actually I don't think your graphs prove your point. When you consider the number of third party titles vs. the number of 1st party titles, it still indicates that 1st party titles are a HUGE part of the Wii's software sales. Even 40-50% is a lot. I'd be more interesting in seeing a graph that excludes games that sold under a particular threshold. You have to think about all the Disney movies and such that sell games for Wii that help third party sales. Overall, though, the mega-sellers are all first party titles.

EDIT: To do a little comparison, look at the AAA third party titles on--say--the 360: Bioshock, Orange Box, GTA IV, Gears of War, etc.

In contrast, can anyone name a AAA third party title for the Wii????

[Spindel]

But how do you classify something like an AAA title?

Good games that a lot of people do like and that do sell well score really poorly with the review sites.
Take Wii sports as an example (I know it's first party) it scored around 6 with IGN while many will argue that it's a much better game than that. Now I'm not saying that is an AAA title but do you have a objective way to determine what a AAA title is?

[iconoclast]

Originally Posted by Spindel

But how do you classify something like an AAA title?

Good games that a lot of people do like and that do sell well score really poorly with the review sites.
Take Wii sports as an example (I know it's first party) it scored around 6 with IGN while many will argue that it's a much better game than that. Now I'm not saying that is an AAA title but do you have a objective way to determine what a AAA title is?

Generally, a high average review and good sales. Wii Sports doesn't really count cause it's a pack-in and as a full game, it's fairly incomplete. Plus it's first party anyway.

[Spindel]

How well did Bioshock sell?

[PirateThom]

So, how many of these are Carnival Games and the like?

[Chibi Kitsune]

3rd party games selling on Wii unpossible

[Spindel]

Sorry I had to bump this old thread, but I think it's better than to do a new one.

Anyway some more 3rd party numbers for Wii compared to other consoles:

Wii: Here's That Wii Third Party Sales Proof You Requested

Here's That Wii Third Party Sales Proof You Requested

You want third party software sales data for the Wii? You got it. The always helpful, always ready with a sales charts folks at Nintendo have provided us with a handy line graph showing off the success that third parties have had on its console. It's devoid of confusing first-party data, which mucks up the numbers, and "demonstrates that third parties on Wii are tracking ahead of both PS3 and 360."
On display are the first nineteen months of each console's lifecycle. That impressive upward tick on the blue line — the Wii line — starts its ascent right around the time that Guitar Hero III made its way to the Wii platform. Now who says third party games don't sell on the Wii? Oh, everyone who's not Activision? Well, zip it.

EDIT:// Here's another article form a different source:

http://www.gamedaily.com/articles/ne...do-sell/?biz=1

We now bring you the third-party only chart we promised in addition to data and commentary from NPD. Bottom line: Wii third-party games did indeed outsell the competition.

by James Brightman on Friday, August 08, 2008


We recently posted a story discussing the state of third-party software sales on Wii, which included a chart from Nintendo that inconveniently also lumped in first-party sales. Well, now we've obtained the proper third-party only sales chart (see below), which does bear out what Nintendo of America has been telling us all along: games from third parties are selling on the Wii.
In fact, when GameDaily BIZ contacted The NPD Group for more data, we discovered that for the first 20 months on the market for each console the Wii comparatively sold several million more units of third-party software in the U.S. than either the Xbox 360 or PS3. More specifically, the Wii sold 33 million units of third-party software in its first 20 months, while the Xbox 360 sold 29 million units and the PS3 sold 20 million units.

Click through for the full-size chart

"I actually think that given the number of comments made from industry executives at E3 (or thereabouts) about how they didn't put enough resources against development of Wii games that the industry has realized that the old adage of 'only first-party games sell on Nintendo systems' is absolutely incorrect. I think you're right that the data will cause a few eyebrows to lift," NPD industry analyst Anita Frazier commented.
So where does the perception that third-party games don't sell on Wii come from? Most likely it stems from the respective sales ratios for the three consoles. While third-party software sales comprise well over 80 percent of total game sales on both the Xbox 360 and PS3, on the Wii that number dips all the way down to 56 percent. On the whole, however, because total Wii software sales are so high, even 50-something percent of a huge chunk yields a larger total for third-party sales. But there's still no doubt that Nintendo's incredible first-party success leaves a smaller part of the Wii software market for third parties to fight over. The key, however, as Nintendo has said, is to expand that market so all can benefit. So far, so good.