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Old August 28th, 2007, 09:53 PM
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It's a motorist's responsibility to make sure they don't hit any person or animal while driving, not the other way around. Driving is a privilege, while everyone has a right to talk without being injured or killed.
Youre right and wrong.

Drivers have to drive with caution, but pedestrians should be careful too.

Its like saying: Hey lets me cross this hyper dangerous avenue running blindfold, if they hit me its their fault
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Old August 28th, 2007, 09:58 PM
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Youre right and wrong.

Drivers have to drive with caution, but pedestrians should be careful too.

Its like saying: Hey lets me cross this hyper dangerous avenue running blindfold, if they hit me its their fault
That's a ludicrous example. There's a difference between hitting someone who's just crossing the street and someone essentially trying to get hit by a car. They're not even comparable.

Pedestrians should be careful, yes, but ultimately the blame has to lie with the driver. After all, if a person walks into someone else, they don't have the power to kill them. Someone driving a car does. A moving vehicle can often be deadly, and that means the driver's responsibility should be much higher while behind the wheel.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 10:02 PM
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That's a ludicrous example. There's a difference between hitting someone who's just crossing the street and someone essentially trying to get hit by a car. They're not even comparable.
According to your post it is.

Anyway i was just making a point, they should be careful. (both)
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Old August 28th, 2007, 10:02 PM
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Pedestrians should be careful, yes, but ultimately the blame has to lie with the driver. After all, if a person walks into someone else, they don't have the power to kill them. A driver does, and that means their responsibility should be much higher while behind the wheel.
Both parties are as much to blame when someone gets hit. Pedestrians must be sensible and so must drivers. While drivers are capable of killing if they hit people, pedestrians must be aware of that and act accordingly. It is not the drivers fault if someone just walks out in front of them, in the same way that it isn't the pedestrians fault if a car comes screaming round a blind corner at 60mph. It's completely unfair and illogical to say when someone gets hit it is the drivers fault most of the time.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 10:04 PM
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Both parties are as much to blame when someone gets hit. Pedestrians must be sensible and so must drivers. While drivers are capable of killing if they hit people, pedestrians must be aware of that and act accordingly. It is not the drivers fault if someone just walks out in front of them, in the same way that it isn't the pedestrians fault if a car comes screaming round a blind corner at 60mph. It's completely unfair and illogical to say when someone gets hit it is the drivers fault most of the time.
Yeah, quite often it's the pedestrians fault. People just blindly walk out. One time this guy walked into the side of my dad's car He left some massive dent. More damage was done to the car
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Old August 28th, 2007, 10:04 PM
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was this at night or the middle of the day? If it was mid-day with the bright sun and perfect driving conditions and the guy just drove right into your dog then he's a real douche-cake.
In the middle of the freaking day and the weather was perfect, it was his god damn fault that my dog now has to walk with a broken leg and a broken hip and a giant cone around his head. The doc said I should report it to the police but there's not much to do when I don't got his license plate, the only thing I know is that he's driving a green land rover, and that won't help much!

It's a good thing that my dog is huge or else it could have gotten a lot worse!
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Old August 28th, 2007, 10:05 PM
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I was walking my dog on the side of the road then I had to cross I saw him coming, but he was a long way from me and my dog, so when we crossed my dogs butt was sticking out behind me and then he comes with an insane speed and rams my dogs butt, and I know he saw us, it was like the guy was aiming for my dog.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 10:08 PM
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Both parties are as much to blame when someone gets hit.
How on earth do you figure that? How about when the pedestrian has the right of way - are they still equally to blame then?

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Pedestrians must be sensible and so must drivers. While drivers are capable of killing if they hit people, pedestrians must be aware of that and act accordingly. It is not the drivers fault if someone just walks out in front of them, in the same way that it isn't the pedestrians fault if a car comes screaming round a blind corner at 60mph. It's completely unfair and illogical to say when someone gets hit it is the drivers fault most of the time.
True to a point. Still, though, the bulk of the responsibility should lie with the person with the power to kill someone. Of course pedestrians should be careful, but there's not much they can do when a driver in a much faster, heavier vehicle is barrelling toward them around a corner or down the street without using enough caution. I'm very cautious as a pedestrian, and I've almost been hit by a car more times than I can count while crossing the street with the right of way.

An irresponsible pedestrian is typically only a danger to himself. An irresponsible driver is a danger to everyone around him. That's a pretty important distinction, I think.
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Old August 28th, 2007, 10:11 PM
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In the middle of the freaking day and the weather was perfect, it was his god damn fault that my dog now has to walk with a broken leg and a broken hip and a giant cone around his head. The doc said I should report it to the police but there's not much to do when I don't got his license plate, the only thing I know is that he's driving a green land rover, and that won't help much!

It's a good thing that my dog is huge or else it could have gotten a lot worse!

Sorry...but that part made me lolz. Nothing against your dog.

I love dogs! The poor pooch!
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Old August 28th, 2007, 10:21 PM
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How on earth do you figure that? How about when the pedestrian has the right of way - are they still equally to blame then?
I'm talking about on a road... Cars have the right of way on a road. I don't know what it's like where you live but where I live we have laws in place so that if you need to drive down say a town center road, that you cannot go an excess of 5-10 miles an hour. In any fact, even if the pedestrian has the right of way it doesn't give them the right to be reckless and just do what ever the fuck they want with no regard to what the vehicle is doing. Could you be more specific with what you mean by where a pedestrian has the right of way.


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True to a point. Still, though, the bulk of the responsibility should lie with the person with the power to kill someone. Of course pedestrians should be careful, but there's not much they can do when a driver in a much faster, heavier vehicle is barrelling toward them around a corner or down the street without using enough caution. I'm very cautious as a pedestrian, and I've almost been hit by a car more times than I can count while crossing the street with the right of way.
Put it this way, if you are arguing with a guy and they suddenly pull a gun to your face, you are going to shut the fuck up and pay attention aren't you? Same with a road, if you are walking down a pedestrian only stretch of street or on a wide pavement, you don't need to pay attention to your safety with vehicles but as soon as you are crossing the road and there is the chance that if you are not careful you will die then you stop messing around and concentrate. If you are concentrating there should never be a problem. If you think there is a dangerous driving approaching wait before crossing the road or just get out the way.

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An irresponsible pedestrian is typically only a danger to himself. An irresponsible driver is a danger to everyone around him. That's a pretty important distinction, I think.
So what? That doesn't change the fact that the one of them who is irresponsible is the one at fault.

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