One more reason not to switch to Vista

[Power666]

Originally Posted by E6600

thanks for saving this thread
the points you added just strengthen my point against TC and DRM
* TC makes your computer more vulnerable

Yes.

Though are a few individual traits of the whole trusted computing initiative that do increase security. Application and driver signing is one but that has a whole can of worms for developers. For example, does MS charge developers for the signatures? What are the conditions to get one? From the consumer perspective though, signed applications and drivers are invisible and a good thing.

Originally Posted by E6600

* TC restricts legal use like virtualization

The example I cited had more to do with the corporate greed of MS than any real technical requirement.

Originally Posted by E6600

* DRM is just another way for Big Media to rip us off
I'm glad Apple doesn't use TC and they sell DRM-free content via iTunes

DRM is a big way for media to rip us off by selling the rights we used to have back to us.

Apple is a big DRM developer. While there are DRM free songs on the iTunes music store, there are plenty of DRM enabled music. All movies on the iTunes Store comes with DRM. There success with DRM has actually gotten them in trouble in a few nations due to the closed system.

It should be noted that Apple themselves isn't pro-DRM but rather it is a requirement to do business with the content creators. The same goes for MS, Sony and other online media outlets. Apple does have a bit more weight because they're behind the popular iTunes Store. Apple's influence can only go so far and is mainly limited to how intrusive the DRM actually is.

[E6600]

Originally Posted by Power666

For example, does MS charge developers for the signatures? What are the conditions to get one?

So MS can put an end to Free, Open Source Software, at least on Windows.

[Leonidas]

Originally Posted by Power666

It should be noted that Apple themselves isn't pro-DRM but rather it is a requirement to do business with the content creators.

Content creators? You mean record labels right?

They deserve what they get


imo all these companies are working in collaboration to part you from your money, as was mentioned, bigcorpa is rubbing it's hands at the prospect of charging you for old content on bluray/hddvd/vmd/totalhidef after dvd, and vhs before that.

iTunes is absolute thievery, epic wrongness. (128kbs is 13% of the original music, so imagine iTunes being marked up by like x10)

Bla, you know what I'm saying.

[E6600]

Originally Posted by Leonidas

imo all these companies are working in collaboration to part you from your money, as was mentioned, bigcorpa is rubbing it's hands at the prospect of charging you for old content on bluray/hddvd/vmd/totalhidef after dvd, and vhs before that.

that's the only reason they bring new formats every now and then, to get you into buying your music and movie library all over again.

[:D:]

That can be a good thing. DVD>VHS. CD>vinyl. This shit is just too much, though.

[Power666]

Originally Posted by E6600

So MS can put an end to Free, Open Source Software, at least on Windows.

That has been one of the scenarios put forth. I really don't think it'd go that far as anti-monopoly regulations would kick in to prevent that. It is a bit unsettling for developers as I've pointed out.

Originally Posted by Leonidas

Content creators? You mean record labels right?

They deserve what they get

You're being optimistic. Record labels deserve nothing.

Originally Posted by Leonidas

iTunes is absolute thievery, epic wrongness. (128kbs is 13% of the original music, so imagine iTunes being marked up by like x10)

The idea that you're only getting 13% of the music due to compression is just silly. I highly suspect that you don't understand the philosophies behind compression. It should be noted that getting uncompressed audio from any online store is pretty much unheard of.

DVD's movies use plenty of compression for both audio and video but are you one to complain that you're not getting the complete movie because of this? Even Blu-ray and HD-DVD utilize compression for video (though these formats do support uncompressed audio tracks in their specifications).

[:D:]

Originally Posted by Power666

The idea that you're only getting 13% of the music due to compression is just silly.

128kbps is pretty awful. Then again, I spent over $200 on my sound system. I try to get MP3s that are 192kbps or better. All of the discs I rip myself are 320kbps, which is indistinguishable from WAV. The only thing that sounds better is the uncompressed track from a DVD.

[E6600]

Originally Posted by Power666

That has been one of the scenarios put forth. I really don't think it'd go that far as anti-monopoly regulations would kick in to prevent that. It is a bit unsettling for developers as I've pointed out.

If they even attempt to do that, I wont be the only Windows-user they lost.
If Apple attempts something similar I don't think I'll ever get a Mac, but knowing Apple they wont. Then again I'm better off with GNU/Linux.

[PirateThom]

Originally Posted by :D:

CD>vinyl.

No, it's not.

Vinyl has a lovely, rich and warm sound. The only problem vinyl has is that it's not portable.

[Spindel]

Originally Posted by Leonidas

iTunes is absolute thievery, epic wrongness. (128kbs is 13% of the original music, so imagine iTunes being marked up by like x10)

This is wrong in so many ways I don't know where to start.

Even if I do admit that I also think 128 kbps is to low and should be 192 kbps (when talking about mp3 format which is not the format the ims songs are sold in).

Further you can't say that you get "only" 13% of the original music because of the 87% of the original you "didn't get" 99.99% was stuff you wouldn't hear anyway.

Put any audiophile in a blind test. Let him use his $10000 audio system I promise you he won't hear any difference at all when listening to a mp3 @ 192kbps (and upward) compared to a CD without the aid of computerized analytic tools.

Originally Posted by PirateThom

No, it's not.

Vinyl has a lovely, rich and warm sound. The only problem vinyl has is that it's not portable.

To be a wise ass the thing that gives vinyl the "rich" and "warm" sound is loss in audio quality and interference that is not present in CD or digital formats (sorry for being a wise ass don't ban me please )