Call of Duty 4

[InsightGoalie]

Originally Posted by iconoclast

I ended up going into prestige...I forgot how crappy your setup is when you start out...more incentive to get back up there I guess.

Yeah, being without some of my most used guns and perks suck. Actually my most used perk by far is stopping power.

That leads me to another question, why would anybody use double tap instead of stopping power? In theory shouldn't they be about the same, only one using more ammo? Double tap will kill somebody faster because it shoots faster, the other will kill faster because there is more force in the shot. So both equate to faster killing but one wastes ammo, the other effectively conserves ammo... Logically this doesn't make sense as to why somebody would use double tap. What am I missing?

[Fyrus]

Sometimes, you WANT to waste ammo. SAW, for example?

[Dr Pepper 6pk]

its called suppressing fire for a reason

[rounds1]

Originally Posted by InsightGoalie

Yeah, being without some of my most used guns and perks suck. Actually my most used perk by far is stopping power.

That leads me to another question, why would anybody use double tap instead of stopping power? In theory shouldn't they be about the same, only one using more ammo? Double tap will kill somebody faster because it shoots faster, the other will kill faster because there is more force in the shot. So both equate to faster killing but one wastes ammo, the other effectively conserves ammo... Logically this doesn't make sense as to why somebody would use double tap. What am I missing?

If your enemy is moving, a faster rate of fire will help you hit him more as he runs. So, if you're shooting straight forward and a guy runs through your line of fire, you will hit him with more bullets with a faster rate of fire. That's where it helps most.

I don't know the damage effects stopping power has - so it all depends on that.

[InsightGoalie]

Why would anyone want to waste ammo? Rounds has a pretty good theory. However, whats the point of hitting them with twice as much ammo if you can hit him with normal amounts and get twice as much damage? This is what I can't figure out. Especially people who take high rate of fire weapons and put on double tap... Like the SAW or P-90, it's just not needed.

[Fyrus]

Originally Posted by InsightGoalie

Why would anyone want to waste ammo? Rounds has a pretty good theory. However, whats the point of hitting them with twice as much ammo if you can hit him with normal amounts and get twice as much damage? This is what I can't figure out. Especially people who take high rate of fire weapons and put on double tap... Like the SAW or P-90, it's just not needed.

because then you have more chances of hitting more things.

[rounds1]

Originally Posted by InsightGoalie

Why would anyone want to waste ammo? Rounds has a pretty good theory. However, whats the point of hitting them with twice as much ammo if you can hit him with normal amounts and get twice as much damage? This is what I can't figure out. Especially people who take high rate of fire weapons and put on double tap... Like the SAW or P-90, it's just not needed.

Well, like I said - it depends on how much extra damage stopping power does. If stopping power = 1.5 damage, then maybe a higher rate would be better in certain situations.

If stopping power does = 1.5, then 2 bullets would be more damage and thus what I said above would actually be logical.

If a guy's standing still and you're pounding him, though, then it is a waste of ammo.

[iconoclast]

Couple of questions: 1) how do you get onto the shipping boxes in Bog; 2) in District, how do you get up onto the archway overlooking the courtyard (the one with 2 stairways feeding into it and the market right next to it ?

[InsightGoalie]

Originally Posted by rounds1

Well, like I said - it depends on how much extra damage stopping power does. If stopping power = 1.5 damage, then maybe a higher rate would be better in certain situations.

If stopping power does = 1.5, then 2 bullets would be more damage and thus what I said above would actually be logical.

If a guy's standing still and you're pounding him, though, then it is a waste of ammo.

Yeah, so I'm trying something different. I'm taking high powered but slower shooting weapons and instead of stopping power I add double tap. Example, the AK-74u. That thing is a monster with high damage and now shoots probably as fast as the P90. Problem is I run out of ammo damn fast. I can't wait to get bandoleer back... I think I'm only about one level away now though.

[rounds1]

Originally Posted by InsightGoalie

Yeah, so I'm trying something different. I'm taking high powered but slower shooting weapons and instead of stopping power I add double tap. Example, the AK-74u. That thing is a monster with high damage and now shoots probably as fast as the P90. Problem is I run out of ammo damn fast. I can't wait to get bandoleer back... I think I'm only about one level away now though.

I'm the type who will hold down the trigger instead of shooting in short bursts (which is why the M16 is perfect for me), so double tap wouldn't be a good option for me personally. I use stopping power.

You seem to like the smaller rifles, while I like the assault ones better. I'm a big fan of the M16, M14, G3 and M4. For the smaller ones, I use the MP5 and P90, but that's about it.

I like the SAW and all that too, but they're too inaccurate.